A summary of lines 348c-362a in plato's protagoras those who are bold but not courageous have confused things that will bring them pain with things that will bring them pleasure socrates concludes that ignorance of what is dreadful and not dreadful is cowardice (360c) and therefore could not be taught socrates had begun from the.
Start studying philosophy midterm learn vocabulary, terms, and more with flashcards, games, and other study tools search entails its opposite pain spent entire life ignoring pleasures why would a person not antecendently convinced of the existence of a supreme being not infer the goodness of such a creature upon examining the facts.
Pleasure, pain, and the unity of the soul in plato’s protagoras 1 a few preliminaries 4 vlastos 1956 and kahn 2003 deflate the socratic commitment to pleasure being (a) good, but not the good, while guthrie 1956 goes for high-minded hedonism vlastos 1969, changing his mind, takes the that this argument of socrates does not rely on. Socrates’ claim is however that there are some pleasures that are not relative, because they concern higher parts of the soul that are not bound to the relativity produced by physical things these are the philosophical pleasures—the pure pleasure of coming to a greater understanding of reality.
In a display of great patience, socrates states that when one of two shameful things exceeds the other in baseness, the excess either is one of pain or one of evil the idea behind this claim is that without somehow inflicting either pain or evil, something is not bad, wicked, or shameful—is not a cause of suffering. If the two processes of becoming did not balance each other and go round in a circle, generation would proceed from one point to an opposite endpoint, all things would be in the same state, be affected the same, and cease to exist.
On pleasure and pain from the republic, book 9 socrates: the third victory now, as at the olympic games, is sacred to olympic jupiter, the saviour for consider, that the pleasure of the others is not every way genuine, but that of the wise man is: nor are they pure, but somehow shadowed over, as i appear to myself to have heard from one of the wise men. Socrates, rubbing the place on his leg where his just removed bonds had been, remarks on how strange it is that a man cannot have both pleasure and pain at the same time, yet when he pursues and catches one, he is sure to meet with the other as well.